The following is going to be a long quote from Paul Molnar (the Roman Catholic π on Torrance’s theology. I want to quote this for those of you, especially, who are more prone towards a “classically” conceived Calvinism; or even a Roman Catholic perspective. In this piece I hope that you will get a feel for Torrance’s insistence upon a thoroughly Christ-centred, Spirit-centred approach that he believes we must take if we are going to ground all of life and reality in life — viz. that we must “ground” all of life in Christ’s life (God’s life), or else we will fall into an array of theological problems. Let’s begin this quote:
What can be learned from Torrance’s emphasis on Christ’s high priestly mediation and his rejection of dualistic epistemology and ontology in understanding the Eucharist in a Trinitarian way? First, God gives himself to us in Jesus Christ; the Gift is identical with the Giver. If our understanding of God’s relation with the world is ‘damaged’ because of a dualistic perspective, then we will assume that God has not actually given himself within created time and space ‘but only something of himself through a created mediation’. A dualistic perspective actually divides the Gift from the Giver. The Catholic tendency focuses on the Gift in its concern for real presence, thought of ‘as inhering in the Eucharist as such’. The Protestant tendency focuses on ourselves as receivers over against the Giver. Torrance insists, against both of these tendencies, that because the Gift is identical with the Giver, God is immediately present in his own being and life through Jesus Christ; this self-giving ‘takes place in the Holy Spirit who is not just an emanation from God but the immediate presence and activity of God in his own divine Being, the Spirit of the Father and the Son . . . this is a real presence of Christ to us’.
Second, with respect to the Eucharistic sacrifice, the Offerer is identical with the Offering: what ‘the Incarnate Son offers to the Father on our behalf is his own human life which he took from us and assumed into unity with his divine life, his self-offering through the eternal Spirit of the Father’. Because the historical offering of his body on the cross is inherently one with himself as the Offerer, it is a once-and-for-all event which remains eternally valid. Understood dualistically, the Offerer and Offering are not finally one; ‘neither is his offering once and for all nor is it completely and sufficiently vicarious’. He becomes only a created intermediary and the offering is seen as a merely human offering so that no real mediation between God and creatures has taken place. Torrance insists that if Christ’s human priesthood is seen within a Nestorian or Apollinarian framework ‘then it becomes only a representative and no longer a vicarious priesthood, for it is no longer unique but only an exemplary form of our own’; thus it is no longer uniquely substitutionary.
This directs us to rely on ourselves ‘to effect our own “Pelagian” mediation with God by being our own priests and by offering to him our own sacrifices’. Even if this is done ‘for Christ’s sake’ and motivated by him, since it is not done ‘with him and in him we have no access through him into the immediate presence of God’. If, however, ‘Jesus Christ is himself both Priest and Victim, Offerer and Offering’ who has effected atoning reconciliation and so for ever ‘unites God and man in his one Person and as such coinheres with the Father and the Holy Spirit in the eternal Trinity, then, we participate in his self-consecration and self-offering to the Father and thus appear with him and in him and through him before the Majesty of God in worship, praise and adoration with no other sacrifice than the sacrifice of Christ Jesus our Mediator and High Priest’.
When the Church worships, praises and adores the Father through Jesus Christ, it is the self-offering and self-consecration of Jesus Christ ‘in our nature ascending to the Father from the Church in which he dwells through the Spirit;’ ‘it is Christ himself who worships, praises and adores the Father in and through his members’ shaping their prayers and conforming them in their communion in his body and blood.
T. F. Torrance’s achievement here is immense. By focusing on ‘God as Man’ rather than upon God in Man’, Torrance embraces a high Christology which concentrates on the humanity of the incarnate Son of God and a view of Eucharistic worship and life ‘in which the primacy is given to the priestly mediation of Jesus Christ’:
It is in fact the eternal life of the incarnate Son in us that ascends to the Father in our worship and prayer through, with and in him, in the unity of the Holy Spirit. While they are our worship and prayer, in as much as we freely and fully participate in the Sonship of Christ and in the whole course of his filial obedience to the Father, they are derived from and rooted in a source beyond themselves, in the economic condenscension and ascension of the Son of God. The movement of worship and prayer . . . is essentially correlative to the movement of the divine love and grace, from the Father, through the Son and in the Spirit.
This leads to a more unified soteirology which views incarnation and atonement as a single continuous movement of God’s redeeming love which accentuates Jesus Christ’s ‘God-manward and his man-Godward activity’. Focusing on Jesus’ vicarious humanity emphasizes that Christ has put himself in our place, experiencing our aliented human condition and healing it. Eucharistic anamnesis is no mere recollection of what Christ has done for us once for all, but a memorial which ‘according to his command’ and ‘through the Spirit is filled with the presence of Christ in the indivisible unity of all his vicarious work and his glorified Person’. . . . (Paul Metzger, ed., Paul Molnar, “Trinitarian Soundings in Systematic Theology,” 184-86)
The vicarious point is a very important one for TFT, and his “Evangelical Calvinism.” I hope that you’ve found this quote from Molnar enlightening (I realize Molnar is controversial for some, nevertheless I find his thoughts here spot on, relative to highlighting TFT’s ‘theology of vicariousness’).
If you're interested in really seeing the whole theme of the vicarious humanity of Christ fleshed out you should check out The God who Believes by Christian Kettler. He's got a sequel coming out called The God who Rejoices. Both of these take the theme of Christ's vicarious humanity and apply it in thinking through issues of practical theology like faith and doubt, despair, etc. Good stuff from that whole Barth-Torrance-Anderson school of thought.
Hi Halden,Im personally not a huge fan of Kettler. I think that a better read is Kye Won Lee's 'Living in Union with Christ: The Practical Theology of TFT' in the Peter Lang issues in systematic theology series. Bobby,Thanks for posting this. This is fun! This makes more sense of the unions I think as it makes the spiritual union something which unites us with Christs vicarious humanity not just with an exchange 'over our heads' as you and Myk already highlighted in your previous comments. Scott
Halden,Good to hear from you! Thanks for the suggestion. Maybe I'll have to read it, at the least, so I'll know why Scott isn't a big Kettler fan. And then I suppose I'll have to read Kye Won Lee's work, and judge for myself who between the two ;-).Scott,This is fun, I must admit! Yeah, sometimes I wish I could just post whole essays, instead of quotes, but then I fear nobody would read ;-). I'm glad to have your Kiwi perspective; in fact I think the Kiwis (you, Myk, and Jason G.), as of last count, are now the dominate voice (at least in re. to nationality) on the blog here. Gidday to you all, then :-).Yeah, I think the vicarious point is probably one of the most exciting things, for me, relative to TFT's thought.
I should have said (should've proofread):". . . judge for myself between the two." I.e. scratch the "who" in that clause.
Thanks Halden for the heads up on Kettler's forthcoming sequel! Scott and I have read Kettler's book and both like the intent and goal etc but I think we found it just missed the mark in terms of the poor writing style and it never quite managed to adequately get into the doctrine as well as it should. Saying that, it is really hard to unpack this stuff so at least he has attempted something. Of the same ilk is Baxter Cruger's work – Bobby are you aware of this? Check it out on his blog and perichoresis website – free downloads of his little booklets etc aimed at the 'lay' reader. Also, he is another Torrance fan. Lee's book is good as well but what I found with it was it was not yet rigourously Trinitarian enough – but I am biased for Lee doesn't see theosis in TFT's theology where I do. But one always wants their own thesis to appear in other people's work – right :-)Thanks all.
Hi Myk,Hope the weekened went well for you! I am aware of Cruger's stuff; he has some good stuff on Gal. 2:20 and exegesis thereof in line with TFT's understanding (i.e. the argument over the objective or subjective genetive in that passage). He is a great resource (maybe I should link him)!To be honest, at this point, I've read more of TFT directly; and less of the secondary stuff on him. Which is the opposite with my engagement of Barth.